But when I began training in Goju-kai in
There's another little irony about Kyokushin Kai. If you look at the link I've put up for Kurosaki, you'll see a reference to the Japanese being beaten by the Thais in the early 1960s. Between the 60s and 70s, the only Japanese who were able to defeat the Thais were themselves training in Muay Thai, or who were karate-ka primarily from Kyokushin Kai who had cross-trained in Muay Thai. The idea that karate was able to defeat Muay Thai is a misrepresentation. But the irony is that the practices that would have made karate ka into formidable fighters were already there in the kata Sanchin/Tensho, but misunderstood and not practiced appropriate to the fight.
As my research into the
The more I watched Muay Thai and the way the Thais trained, the more I was able to see the true fighting context of the movement patterns characteristic of the
It is true that in the
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=V3vrziWRjw
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kg4TQRlqQ3
If you study a
One of the key issues here is that you want to fight on your feet. The fighting we see in Muay Thai is a combination of striking and grappling, and because both are allowed, you have to be able to switch instantly from striking to grappling and vice versa; that’s what ‘hands on the wheel’ is all about, as well as the squarish stance which prevents your opponent from turning your corner and also enhances your stability so that you can retain balance in the close fighting mix.
Many people interpret grappling as ‘going to the ground’. Grappling can and does include standup, as seen in Greco-Roman and freestyle. A decisive phase of the fight can involve grappling not to go the ground, or grappling to off-balance your opponent to throw him down—the latter uses of grappling are seen clearly in judo and sambo. They are also seen in chi sao, which is about pushing, controlling, trapping, off-balancing your opponent with hand-fighting. We’re back to the same hands on the wheel. When I studied Wing Chun in the 1970s, I started to see how Wing Chun employed the two-hands-on-the-wheel approach that Goju-ryu ought to be practicing, because it was within this fighting position that the hand movements of Goju-ryu and Uechi-ryu found their explanation. But the Goju-ryu practitioners weren’t aware of this; they were all caught up in the kakie, single-hand pushing.
So we see standup grappling in many martial arts, and it is practiced competitively in Greco-Roman, freestyle, and to a degree, in judo and sambo. The only difference is that in these standup grappling systems, the grappling has been extracted from the fight and practiced for its own sake. In Muay Thai, the grappling aspects of close fighting are occurring in the context of a full-out fight, strikes and all. You will definitely get punished if you make a mistake in Muay Thai. So the Muay Thai representation of standup grappling is the state of the art, and the one that I draw on for my analysis of close-quarter fighting.
What’s happened since the advent of MMA and the recognition of a need for ground fighting, is that karate guys started going around teaching new ways of interpreting their kata so as to retroactively put ground fighting into it. But the point is that these original
These Fujian, etc. systems would also have included bladed weapons. The principles of close-fighting are the same with or without weapons. Naturally, depending on the weapon and the situation, the way you fight may be modified, but the underlying close-quarter principles don’t change. You have to deal with the worst possible scenario in your training, and the worst possible scenario—although potentially the most rewarding to you if you come out on top—is being eyeball to eyeball with your armed opponent. I don’t think it’s an accident that the Hakka and
Dear karate guys: in case you haven’t worked it out yet, I’m doing you a big favour here. I’m telling you clearly what your tradition is really about. You don’t have to invent new applications. Everything you need is already there. It’s just that it needs to be going off in a real fight, like what you see in the Muay Thai clips I’ve put up. It’s staring you right in the face. Put away all the other crap that you’ve been coming up with to try to explain or justify your practices. Watch the fight. Watch Muay Thai, and watch a lot of it.
Then bring thatinto your dojo and you'll be going somewhere.
One of the most frequently-heard expressions in Primal is ‘get your hands on the wheel.’ It means, get your hands positioned so that you can touch your opponent’s hands. This close position is the phase of the fight where the majority of knockouts occur. It’s where you run the highest risk, but play for the biggest payoff.
2)I’ve got to have great skill at anticipating, very good timing, and reaction speed in case things don’t go to plan.
If we were to put this into the context of the street, against one man or multiples, it’s inevitable there’s going to be a ‘crash’. Some people have assumed that because I am an advocate of MMA training, that I would automatically go to the ground in a fight. I don’t want to get my head kicked in by some guy’s mates, nor fight in dog shit. I want to be able to throw the guy to the ground, or use him as a human shield against anybody else who might be coming in. At times it might be necessary to crack his head against a wall or post. This is where the control in a close position comes into play.
Here are the clips, starting with a reference that shows how well Muay Thai can be adapted to MMA.
Here is Namkabuan, the Ring Genius, in action. He epitomizes what I’m trying to say here. Watch him.
and some more links of the same fighter:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CAtjI1f1_o
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qHpw_ST9Pq
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vLBQOtHuQN
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=a9iLIVoTy8
Finally, here’s Saenchai, a guy who really is tiny and takes on bigger opponents, but shows how effectively you can throw a guy to the ground.
And a compilation of Buakaw and Saenchai, both of whom are masters of close fighting.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DdC5ePY9Ae
I was up in
1) to raise their aggression level and set them up with a destructive mindset
2) to give them an experience of the kind of training that will raise anaerobic threshold levels
3) to teach them the simple biomechanics needed to produce more explosive power, particularly as applied to striking
By the end of the lesson, I think they were getting it. We worked on a number of different ways to use the bag and the pads to develop explosive power in a repetitive way. Then we translated that into more tactical work.
Particularly with the pads, I wanted to give them an insight that the pads are for fighting, and need to be used dynamically and in a non-clinical, working context. The padwork needs to resemble the fight, not a sterile, laboratory exercise. Like I always say, a lot of people when they hold the pads, they look like they're standing on a runway signalling in a jumbo jet. The good pad work you see tends to be from
We also did clinchwork, including hand-fighting phase and close contact work. Here the emphasis was on striking at any opportunity, rather than turning the clinch situation into a clinch game. A lot of people draw on Greco-Roman wrestling for their clinch model, but in Greco-Roman, striking isn't an option. So if you rely on the Greco-Roman way of doing the clinch work and you find yourself against a good striker, you could just end up with a knee or elbow in the head. So the whole point of it was to run the clinchwork, but always be seeking opportunities to strike. And in the same way, learning to be aware that in that close contact position, you will be struck and you have to be able to deal with that.
I also emphasized to them that although takedown is important in MMA, as a striker if you find yourself in a situation where you can’t strike for whatever reason and you’re fighting for positional control, it’s important to try to off-balance him long enough so that you can strike. It’s better to do this than to try to take him to the ground and put yourself at risk of being hit in the process.
Currently within MMA, although the game is gradually turning around in favour of the standup guys, there is still a tendency for ground work tempos and levels of aggression to set the tone even when the fight is on the feet. That’s why I say, take the level of aggression and explosiveness that would be found in a good Muay Thai or K-1 match, and bring that to the ground. Don’t bring the chess-playing, slow game to the feet.
In all, it was a good day. Neal is really keen to move his guys to the next level, and the way I work, I can get very quick results. I’m looking forward to going back and doing more with these guys.
As for Primal on Sunday, it was the worst attendance in the year since we’ve started. I had three guys—they happen to be the best three guys I’ve got (Rob, Rory and Spence), and that’s no coincidence, because these guys train and train and train. They just soak it in and they reap the rewards. So it was the worst attendance, but I reckon the best training day we’ve ever had. Things really started to click in, and although it goes without saying that their anaerobic fitness and conditioning is superb, the thing that really stood out was their knockout power. It’s way up there. At a gym level, I haven’t seen anything better. And I’ve seen a lot of guys over the years.
I’m extremely proud of this small group.
With regards to the attendance, I’ve been thinking about it and I’m going to be addressing this issue in another post.
